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FRATER Alexander (Doc)

FRATER Alexander (Doc)

Male 1859 - 1931

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  • Name  FRATER Alexander (Doc) 
    Born  9 Mar 1859  Trinkey Property, Liverpool Plains, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Occupation  1891, Grocer 
    Occupation  Grazier 
    _PPEXCLUDE  Eck 
    _UID  F9A7CB1300BE4B3DAC811EB17BF24439AA3A 
    Died  31 Jul 1931  174 Roger Road, Lakemba, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Cause: Senile Decay 
    • Presbyterian section 6E Grave 272
    Buried  3 Aug 1931  Presbyterian, Rockwood, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I571  Frater Genealogy
    Last Modified  24 Aug 2016 

    Father  FRATER Alexander,   b. 15 Dec 1828, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Mar 1911, Deep Creek, Narrabri, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother  HAY Penelope,   b. 10 Feb 1834, Kirkcudbright, Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Mar 1917, Merihula, Namoi River, Narrabri, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  7 Feb 1851  Kirkcubright, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • I am unsure if Alexander and Penelope married in Kirkcubright before leaving or perhaps they married onboard the "«i»Emperor«/i»" I have never been able to find a record for their marriage as yet. Family stories have it that they married then a couple of months after the marriage sailed for Australia. On the birth records of their children it states they where married 7 Feb 1851 in Kirkcudbright.
    Family ID  F186  Group Sheet

    Family 1  LAWRENCE Barbara Jane (Agda),   b. 4 Jun 1857, Scone, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 May 1929, Toorak, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  24 Jun 1880  Presbyterian Church, Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Divorced  4 Mar 1890 
    Children 
     1. FRATER Alexander (Lappy) Hay,   b. 3 Nov 1881, Coonamble, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Jul 1961, Repatriation General Hoespital, Concord, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. FRATER Robert (Weed) Guy,   b. Sep 1883, Magaormadine, Coonamble, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Jan 1965, New End Hospital, Hampstead, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. FRATER Elizabeth Penelope,   b. 4 Jun 1885, Coonamble, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Dec 1960, Victoria, Australia. Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified  25 Feb 2013 
    Family ID  F184  Group Sheet

    Family 2  GLOVER Sarah,   b. 3 Aug 1864, Leyburn, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 Jul 1915, Hospital For Insane, Callan Park, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  8 Apr 1890  Eskbank, Wharf Street, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    • In the Presence of: Mary Sinnott and John Livingston
      Minister: C D . Buchanan
    Children 
     1. FRATER Sarah (May) Demaris,   b. 22 May 1887, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Dec 1979, Chesalon Nursing Home, North Manly, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. FRATER Walter Henry,   b. 7 Apr 1889, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 May 1959, "Maikop" Leader Road, Binnaway, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. FRATER Alexander Douglas,   b. 26 Apr 1891, Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 31 Jan 1950, District Hospital, Inverell, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. FRATER Archibald Clarence,   b. 21 Sep 1895, Narrabri, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Jul 1981, Drs Surgery, Glebe Rd. Junction, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. FRATER Gladys Elizabeth (Queenie),   b. 25 Oct 1897, Narrabri, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Feb 1988, Bendigo, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. FRATER Penelope Hay (Toss),   b. 13 Jan 1900, Coonamble, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Jul 1997, Guyra, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
     7. FRATER David Gordon (Duncan),   b. 9 Aug 1902, Narrabri, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 Aug 1996, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
     8. FRATER Isabelle Mary,   b. 28 Oct 1904, Narrabri, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Jul 1981, Westmead Hospital, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
     9. FRATER Kenneth Hay,   b. 8 Feb 1909, Narrabri, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Jan 1997, East Maitland, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location
    Last Modified  9 Sep 2012 
    Family ID  F185  Group Sheet

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    Alexander (Doc) Frater
    Alexander (Doc) Frater
    1859-1931
    Alexander (Doc) Frater
    Alexander (Doc) Frater

  • Notes 
    • Index of Deposition Registers, shows that in Coonamble a committal date of 30 Aug 1886 for the Alleged Offence of stealing a horse. Page No. 111, Serial No. NRS Item No.849 NSW Archives.

      In the NSW Police Gazette page 274, dated 8 Sept 1886.
      Under Title of Apprehensions &c.
      Alexander Frater, charged with stealing a brown mare (recovered), the property of Thomas Beveley of Coonamble, has been arrested by Sergeant Boyd, Coonamble Police. Committed for trial at Coonamble Sessions. Bail Allowed.

      Alexander got his nickname "Doc" for his ability to fix anything and he was also a excellent horseman.
      Alexanders father refused to give consent to the marriage of Barbara and Alexander, and kept as many of his children away from the ceremony, as he could. Penelope climbed into the buggy with her daughter Elizabeth and drove the young couple to Tamworth to be married. Once the deed was done Alexander could not allow his son to start with nothing, so he gave young Alexander a parcel of undeveloped scrub land near Coonamble, 150 miles north west of Merrylong. The land was mostly scrub, which would need clearing and hard work to turn it into good pasture. They named the property "Magormadine" after a local creek, but the impressive name in time was to change nothing in time to come. Alexander would do neither, he was content to keep a few cattle for domestic use and to hire himself out as a stockman or a Shearer. The days went by, and slowly the shape of their lives began to form. Alexander rose early, went out to feed the animals, returned home for breakfast, and spent the rest of the day smoking and reading the papers. He had no intentions of doing anything other then while away his time as pleasantly as he could while keeping the property in reasonable running order. He gambled at the local races and worked occasionally as a Shearer. By Christmas 1884 Alexander and Barbara where expecting their 3rd child. Sarah Glover came to help Barabara (her Aunt and wife of Alexander) with the birth of their third child and the 2 boys, in exchange for Sarah's help Barbara was to teach her to read and write. Sarah stayed with Alexander Barbara and their three children for a year. Barbara rose early one morning to take eggs to the market, on her return she found Alexander and her 'Sarah' together. They lived in an uneasy truce, then Alexander suggested Barbara go to Sydney with the children for her 'health' and a change of air. Barbara accepted the offer. While Barbara was away Alexander had fled to Narrabri with Sarah..... Barbara and Alexander divorced in 1890.
      Alexander and Sarah went on to have 11 children, with Alexander working away much of the time. At school a couple of the children's friends looked suspiciously like them. It seems that Alexander had settled several old scores with his neighbours by suducing their wives. The children grew up to accept these as half brothers and sisters, but none of this would of done much good for Sarah's self asteem. Penelope was sent to bring Alexander home after one of his rampages, the young girl took the opportunity to tick him off. He was sitting next to her, still drunk, a huge shambling form bumping along the cart. With childish lucidity she enumerated his faults and described in detail the effect it was having on her mother (Sarah) To her horror he burst into tears, mumbling 'She was the only one I ever loved... the only one' and he was losing her. After Sarah passed away, for Alexander this was the last in a long line sequence of terrible events. He had been a loved easy going member of a large, well-to-do family totally unprepared for what was to come. The drive for improvement had never been bred in him as it had in his parents, and even there will and tenacity had not prevented fate from taking away most of what they had so laboriously put together. Spoiled and talented, Alexander had never had to push himself to achieve anything and when the time came he couldn't see the need . If his parents had difficulty maintaining a reasonable way of life he, with no internal drive and no more financial help from them, soon collapsed into drunkenness and dispair. For a while he continued to work leaving the children at home to be fed by de Kloot, a rabbit trapper who came around and baked damper for them. Their grandmother Penelope, was by then over seventy, and she did not offer to have the children at Deep Creek. Finely Alexander fell apart completely, sold the property, abandoned the children, and went bush. The children lost touch with him, Still a magnificent rider, he found work around the countryside, and later one of the daughters discovered him working as a 'useful' on a property near Sydney. The children he had left behind suffered terribly as a result of his abandoning them, travelling from one sullen relative to another, hoping to be taken in. They where regarded as an imposition by families already hard pressed. In later life none of the children allowed their harsh memories to distroy them, creating professional lives and careers for themselves out of force of necessity. Alexander passed away in 1931 a very lonely man.

      «b»(Notes from Sally Frater nee Jones, letter dated 1975) «/b»
      Alexander married Barbara Lawrence, who left him, in Barbara Baynton's book it says he left her. He then married Sarah Glover, Barbara's niece. He had three properties Trangi, Goondiwindi and Baan Baa (Merilong Park), that might make sense if Merilong Park was also part or near the original Trinkie, because I have been told Walter was born in 1889 at Trinkie, so perhaps when Alexander (his father) sold "Merrilong" young Alexander still had a place there. Anyway Alexander lost all his places and also left his wife Sarah and 9 children and his wife died of post natal depression when the youngest Kenneth was only 4 year old. [3, 4, 5]

  • Sources 
    1. [S979] Marriage of Alexander Frater to Barbara Lawrence, New South Wales Births Deaths and Marriages, Certificate No. 4969.

    2. [S429] Marriage Certificate Reg No. B 09555, Alexander Frater and Sarah Glover, 1890..

    3. [S948] Page No. 111, Serial No. NRS Item No.849 NSW Archives.

    4. [S1969] In the NSW Police Gazette page 274, dated 8 Sept 1886..

    5. [S1493] Letter from Sally Frater nee Jones, dated 1975..